President Obama, Tavis Smiley & Racial Politics
This past week I spoke about white men’s deficiencies. This week it is Back men that are on the hot seat. I want to use Milissa Harris-Lacewell’s article to initiate the discussion. Tavis Smiley will be here in Indianapolis at Clowes Hall on the Butler campus on June 2, 2009 @ 7PMto debut his film “Stand.” The main media coverage is all about the situation in Iran. White men in the United States House and the United States Senate want President Obama to get involved in Iran’s affairs. Mike Pence a congressman from Indiana has joined the chorus of voices. As much as I respect Congressman Pence we are going to disagree on our positions concerning Iran. The United States is not the world’s police. Getting involved in Iran will only let America become the issue. America being the issue will not help Iranians work out their internal affairs. Therefore, as I would counsel the President to leave Iran, I am going to follow my own advise. Therefore, let’s talk about the issue that seems to exist between President Obama and Tavis Smiley. Thank you for listening to AjabuSpeaks.
Commentary: Don't hold Obama to race agenda
•· Melissa Harris-Lacewell: Some have said Obama should be held to racial agenda
•· She says nostalgia for the old days of protest obscures last election
•· Black politics has come of age, and African-Americans are equal partners, she says
By Melissa Harris-Lacewell
Special to CNN
Melissa Harris-Lacewell is associate professor of politics and African-American studies at Princeton University. She is the author of the award-winning book "Barbershops, Bibles, and BET: Everyday Talk and Black Political Thought," and wr= ites a daily blog titled The Kitchen Table.
PRINCETON, New Jersey (CNN) -- It seems Tavis Smiley has been irritated with Barack Obama for a long time. Smiley is perhaps the most recognizable African-American journalist in the country. He is a fixture on radio and television, and has authored several books that are best-sellers among black readers.
One might suspect that Smiley would be enthusiastic about the opportunities presented by America's election of a black president.
Instead, Smiley seems annoyed.
In February 2008, Smiley denounced then-candidate Obama for failing to make a personal appearance at Smiley's annual State of the Black Union. His continuing criticism of Sen. Obama during the fall campaign produced substantial outcry from listeners of the Tom Joyner Morning Show, a popular radio program where Smiley had been a well-liked regular.
After Obama's election, Smiley published a text titled "Accountable" and has repeatedly indicated his intention to hold President Obama "accountable" to an explicitly racial agenda.
The specific policies suggested by Smiley's books are not substantially different from those of the Obama administration, but Smiley insists on explicit and repeated acknowledgement of race, while Obama typically seeks to address inequality within a racially neutral frame.
Despite writing about race in both of his books, addressing race in the historic Philadelphia speech during the Democratic primary and repeatedly acknowledging that racial inequality endures, Smiley's critique implies that Obama's approach to race is both inadequate and inauthentic.
On May 24, TV One aired the latest installment of Smiley's accountability campaign: a two-hour documentary titled "Stand." Recycling Spike Lee's Million Man March film, "Get On the Bus," Smiley assembled a group of prominent black male public figures for a bus ride through the South.
Ostensibly, this bus trip would provide Smiley, professors Cornel West and Michael Eric Dyson, Dick Gregory and others an opportunity to reflect on the meaningful upheavals in American society and politics in the summer of 2008. "Stand" was an enormous disappointment.
Its low production value, wandering narrative, flat history and self-important egoism did little to reveal the shortcomings of the Obama phenomenon. Instead, the piece exposed and embodied the contemporary crisis of the black public intellectual in the age of Obama.
The film and its participants (two of them my senior colleagues at Princeton University) appropriated the legacy of the Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. to implicitly claim that they, not Obama, are the authentic representatives of the political interests of African-Americans. They used King's images and speeches, gathered on the balcony where King was assassinated, and explicitly asserted their desire to play King to Obama's LBJ, and Frederick Douglass to Obama's Lincoln.
On its face, this is not a bad model. Presidents are deeply constrained by the structural and political limitations of their office. A robust administration needs an active and informed citizenry to engage, push, cajole, criticize and applaud its efforts.
But this appropriation misrepresents rather than preserves King's legacy. King was a powerful questioner and, at times, ally of President Johnson because he was at the helm of a massive social movement of men and women who were shut out of the ordinary political process. It was not King's intellectual capacity or verbal dexterity that made him an effective advocate for racial issues; it was his own accountability to that movement.
This is not true of Smiley and his "soul patrol," who are mostly public personalities and tenured professors largely unaccountable to the black constituency. King's meager income, though supplemented by the lecture circuit, was grounded in the voluntary contributions of black churchgoers.
Smiley is backed by powerful corporations, like Wal-Mart and Nationwide, that have troubled relationships with these communities. The college profs on the bus are comfortably supported by well-endowed universities. This does not invalidate their views on race, but it does make the analogy with King a poor fit.
Further, Smiley and his "soul patrol" seemed to have missed the intervening 40 years between the era of King and the election of Obama. African-Americans are no longer fully disfranchised subjects of an oppressive state.
African-Americans are now citizens capable of running for office, holding officials accountable through democratic elections, publicly expressing divergent political preferences and, most importantly, engaging the full spectrum of American political issues, not only narrowly racial ones. The era of racial brokerage politics, when the voices of a few men stood in for the entire race, is now over. And thank goodness it is over. Black politics is growing up.
The men of "Stand" yearned for an imagined racial past. By their accounting, this racial past had better music, more charismatic leaders and a more-involved black church.
Their romanticism ignores the cultural contributions of contemporary black youth, forgets the dangerous limitations of charismatic leadership and revises the fraught, complicated relationship of black churches to struggles for racial equality. And these men ignored the democratizing effect of new media forms, which revolutionized the 2008 election.
Black people were not duped by some slick, media-generated candidate. African-Americans were co-authors of the Obama campaign. Through social networks, YouTube videos, political blogs and new-media echo chambers, black people were equal partners in shaping the candidate and his campaign. There was no need for the entrenched pundit class to tell black voters what to think or how to behave; they figured it out for themselves.
Still, there is plenty to criticize in the young Obama administration: the refusal to prosecute those implicated in the torture memos, civilian casualties caused by drone attacks, bank bailouts and inadequate defense of gay rights to name a few. But black communities are already engaged in these critiques and many others. Black local organizers, elected officials, bloggers, pundits and columnists have taken substantive, specific positions on a broad range of issues.
In black communities, nonprofit organizations continue to work for justice, and charities still try to fill the gap during tough economic times. African-Americans are engaged as mature citizens ought to be: in both discourse and action.
This political maturity is precisely the source of the black public intellectual crisis: What do Smiley and the Soul Patrol add to this process? Their bus never stopped at a Habitat for Humanity site to build a home or at a soup kitchen to serve the hungry. Their dialogue centered more on the relative merits of Aretha vs. Beyonce than on meaningful political issues.
Though they spoke with elders, their self-congratulatory revelry never paused to engage any elected officials, issues specialists or local activists. And while they talked a great deal about women, they never spoke to a woman.
"Stand" was sad because I still believe in a role for black public intellectuals. Scholars and journalists often have a particular capacity for curiosity, questioning and issue synthesis that has real value in public discourse. It was painfully clear that this particular accountability crusade is not informed by any of those skills. Instead, it seems determined to stand in the way of the maturation of African-American politics in order to maintain personal power.
The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Melissa Harris-Lacewell.
Rev. Ajabu
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Dawn
Do you have a clue as to what you said to justify Whites coming to America and killed the native Americans to take the native's land. Are you saying that the native Americans are not entitled to their homeland because there is no European who put the paper work together. What is wrong with you.
The fair way for the Whites to come in and claim land is to buy it from the natives but that crowd killed and ravaged. They did the same thing in Australia, Africa, India, China,and everywhere they went.
I know you did not let these bloggers read your reasoning for Whites taking land from the native Americans. They tried to have treaties but your saintly Whites broke all of those. The killing is just as real as it was for the 6 million Jews. A native American, African American, or any life is not less than a Jewish or Caucasian life. Are you ok?? I don't believe you gave that explanation for the killing and genocide of your own ancestors. Why don't you tell them that if you can find any Cherokees left.
No wonder you are so comfortable with the rape and killing of Blacks by these same beasts who wiped out the native Americans. You cannot justify their slaughter of God's children that easily.
That doesn't mean we don't condemn Blacks and others who are just as inhumane and ruthless but to explain away the genocide of your own people because of land ownership papers is the ultimate in "native American self hatred.'
Please think about what you said because you are representing yourself in the worst way possible. You cannot be that naive.
john
http://www.journeytowardforgiveness.com/setting-out/article3.asp
An excellent article about the Christian concept of forgiveness.
Since you are no better than those who have sinned against you, you need to learn forgiveness or God will not forgive you your transgressions against others.
John, your medical career in a poor rural community has been a ministry, which I know has been pleasing to God. Don't let your angry heart toward nameless and faceless "White" people prevent you from receiving God's grace. Your work with the NAACP against specific acts of racism in Georgia has been a blessing. Your overarching hatred toward White people in general is unjust. It is racism.
http://www.blnz.com/news/2008/09/02/Gores_Carbon_Empire_Cashing_Climate_4310.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/06/26/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5117890.shtml
And anyone who thinks that any "party" is more righteous than another is woefully mistaken.
One thing I agree wholeheartedly with the Reverend about is that we need to start separating political parties from the people who represent them. There is plenty of bad politics on both sides of the aisle.
www.capitalresearch.org/pubs/pdf/v1217525953.pdf
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/06/26/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5117890.shtml
I can't get the second link to pull up.
Google
Al Gore's Carbon Empire: Cashing in on Climate Change
And google:
EPA May have suppressed report skeptical of global warming
Dawn
I do not hate White people or Black people. I do HATE people who abuse and slaughter other people regardless of what ethnic group they come from.
When I used to attack racist Whites in my area I got the same reaction from Whites as your response and that is, I hate White people. But when I started spanking and calling out Blacks who were just as lethal to innocent people who do not have a voice then the anti White noise quieted down. They wouldn't say I hate Black people. But I attacked both Black and White if they were oppressive of defenseless human beings.
My track record is that of attacking racists and the duplicitious uncle tom Blacks that are found in most communities. I am an equal opportunity attacker of low down dirty Whites and Blacks who exploit and take advantage of the least of us.
You obviously forgot how much I love Liberal Whites and Blacks. I adore the Clintons, Pelosi, Charlie Rangel, Maxine Waters, Sheila Jackson-Lee, Barbara Lee, Ted Kennedy, Bill Gates, John Kerry, Joe Biden, Al Gore, and so many Whites and Blacks who try to lift all boats. Please don't ever tell me that I hate Whites, just the dirty ones.
I bet you hate Kennedy, Pelosi, Biden, and so many liberal Democrats. You cannot put me in that simplistic box because I do not hate all Whites or all Blacks, just the oppressors like Bush, Newt Gingrich, Rush Limbaugh, Tom Delay, Dick Cheney, Bill Kristol, Joe Lieberman, Sean Hannity, Clarence Thomas, Antonin Scalia and so many more who happen to be Conservative Republicans and Southern Democrats.
I like people who act in a way that Jesus would be so proud. So far, the liberal Democrats are the closest. With the exception of abortion, that group is what this country needs. Whenever they are in power, the citizens are uplifted. Herbert Hoover and George Bush took this country into a toilet. But Franklin D Roosevelt and Bill Clinton raised the living standards to where Jesus would want His people to be. Just watch Barack Obama work his magic. It is too early to condemn his policies.
Are you all right Dawn? Your responses are so rambling and incoherent.
john
Dawn
Jesus demonstrated that you can hate evil and savagery. When our Lord was going to the cross, he spoke to Pontius Pilate [spelling] and to the Sanhedrin Council [spelling] but he "never said a mumbling word when asked questions by low down dirty King Herod. Herod killed so many babies and performed other ruthless acts that even Jesus would not speak to him.
The way his betrayor Judas, the Discipe, died was so horrific that it didn't appear that Jesus forgave him. The Bible says that he hanged himself, buzzards plucked out his eyes, and he fell down a cliff onto rocks and his guts burst wide open.
And the scriptures say that "man can't serve two masters, he has to LOVE one and HATE the other.
There is a place for hate and unforgiveness when it comes to the worst elements of our world. Killing innocent people because they are Black, Jewish, Hispanic, Gay, or White should fall into the category of unforgiving.We must hate the purveyors of inhumane slaughter of God's children on this earth. There is a lot of blood on the hands of ruthless murderers both Black and White past and present.
john
John,
I do not disagree that the mistreatment of anyone is sin. I even see the mistreatment of animals as sinful. I read the images of Revelation, with the animals worshipping with the saints and it confirms to me that even animals are God's beloved creatures who shouldn't be mistreated. And animals are below man in creation. So clearly, God weeps when we are cruel to one another. No doubt about it.
The story of Judas was one of the most difficult for me to wrap my mind around. It is also one of the stories that makes me interested in predestination. God does not condemn people at birth. I do not believe that Judas was condemned at birth. He was one of Jesus's own. But Jesus could see the "whole" of Judas's life. He could see that Judas would sell out his life for 30 pieces of silver and that Judas would die an unrepentent sinner. It helps me to know that God did not send Judas to sin, but that he knew that Judas would choose to sin. Hence, he was predestined. Yet at the same time, he had free will.
We all have the opportunity to repent and receive God's grace. None of us is less a sinner than our brother. We are just under Grace or not...by choice.
White sinners, Black sinners, Red, Yellow, Brown. Sinners all. And all free to seek and receive Grace.
But thinking that it is not a sin to hate your enemies or those who have wronged you is wrong. First of all, your system of justice is flawed and not God's. Jesus said, "But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return, and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, for he is kind to the ungrateful and the evil. Be merciful, even as your Father is merciful" (Luke 6:35-36).
Basically, we're just not good. None of us. Our life goal as Christians is to get better....to get more like Christ...but face it. Our beliefs are always clouded by our experiences and we all hold stereotypes based on limited information on which we create our reality. Our understanding is always flawed. We don't even know God's plan. So we can't judge much of anything....let alone one another. We can only study and apply the word and seek the Holy Spirit for guidance.
There is no scriptural New Testament justification for Christians to hate. There are a lot of references about Christians being hated, but not for Christians to hate. We are told to love one another. Period. Not love one another "but". Just love one another. People even use the "Love the sinner, hate the sin" mantra....even THAT is not scriptural.
I'm not always good at practicing this. I'm a sinner. But I know the truth. I know that living in and miring myself in the indiscretions of other people toward me or my ancestors makes me angry. We can talk about the past to understand it and not repeat it. But we can't change it. We really can't fix it. But we can use history and scripture and the Holy Spirit within OURSELVES to try to become more like Christ.
Dawn
Your statement sounds good but it is rambling and confusing. All I said was that the scriptures are clear about the ruthless murderers who have destroyed God's greatest creation "MAN"; and how they have been destroyed by a just God. Unfortunately,the Whites who have ruled this world have been the most gruesome murderers of God's people under their [White] domination all over the world.
The Bible clearly states that you cannot serve two masters, you have to love one and hate the other. Hate is justified in that book. I hate the sin and the sinner who kills innocent people.
I notice you rarely forgive the proponents of abortion but your heart bleeds so passionately for the Hitlers, Gingus Khans, Idi Amins, George Bush, Cheney, and so many killers of God's people.
I rest my case!
john
John,
I vote against abortion. I don't hate abortionists. You live in the hate. There's a big difference in the effect on my soul.
And John, the serving of two masters quote is so far out of context it made me laugh.
Ecclesiastes 3:1 & 8
1) For everything there is a season, and a time for every matter under heaven:
8) a time to love, and a time to hate
Can I ask when I have ever bled for the Hitlers of the world?
Can I ask when I have ever indicated that I was a big fan of George Bush?
John, seriously. You and the Reverend make things up and make so many assumptions.
The Reverend tells whoppers about what my friends agree or don't agree with me about...although our friendships are totally non-political.
You make all kinds of weird statements about my support of tyrants and dictators.
It's hard to have honest discussions with people who make things up.
Reverend,
Be serious.
I ask for a new testament reference claiming hate as a virtue and you cite an old testament reference....again, grossly out of context.
Ecclesiastes says SO much more than what you have referenced.
The book GOES on to say:
3:17 I said in mine heart, God shall judge the righteous and the wicked: for there is a time there for every purpose and for every work.
3:21 Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?
None of the themes of Ecclesiastes promote earthly hatred. The themes of Ecclesiastes are that nothing will bring us happiness apart from God, that only God can bring happiness and judgement, that we should enjoy life even in trouble...and other similar subjects.
You will find no justification in the Bible for your judgement and hatred of a "people". If you are looking for that, you will need to seek another religion.
Now John, I happen to love the book of Matthew. There is so much meat in this chapter.
Clearly, the message is about money. It is a very important message to me. I happen to be a very security minded person. I follow all those rules about having enough in savings and insurance and all that silly stuff. I read this chapter regularly because it reminds me that my security is NOT in these things.
Another really interesting part of Matthew 6 is the whole idea of prayer....God knowing your needs before you express them....supplying your needs....This particular passage was very important to my daughter in her recovery from her eating disorder inasmuch as God tells you not to worry about what you eat.
Now, please pay attention to this passage:
14For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
15But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
In your case, I would say THAT is the relevant passage.
I LOVE this Chapter of Matthew:
Matthew 6
1Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.
2Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
3But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:
4That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.
5And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
7But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
8Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.
9After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
10Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
11Give us this day our daily bread.
12And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
13And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
14For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
15But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
16Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
17But thou, when thou fastest, anoint thine head, and wash thy face;
18That thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly.
19Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
20But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
21For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
22The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
23But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!
24No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
25Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?
26Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?
27Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?
28And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin:
29And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.
30Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith?
31Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?
32(For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.
33But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
34Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof
Also, John,
Please stop making references to my level of denseness, stupidity, confusion, incoherance.
None of that is true. I can't help it if you misquote, misrepresent and take out of context all kinds of things from the Bible.
I often have to go back and redirect your misrepresentations in so many places that it makes my posts have to jump all over the place in answer to your comments.
You made comments about Judas that showed a lack of understanding. You pull pieces out of Matthew that are totally related to a different topic. You judge hatred and racism with further hatred and racism.
Trying to address that cogently is no easy task. Even for the daughter of an English professor who majored in philosophy and logic my first two years of college.
For the two of you who have trouble with my claiming of the designation of Conservative Christian...here is the definition of what a Conservative Christian believes:
Inerrancy of the Scriptures
The virgin birth (and the deity of Jesus)
The doctrine of substitutionary atonement
The bodily resurrection of Jesus
The authenticity of Christ's miracles
We believe in the Bible as a complete and inerrant document. All of it. Even the uncomfortable parts.
Matthew 10:34
Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.
Reverend,
If you have read this whole chapter, you know that what it is talking about is this:
"Whosoever there, shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my father which is in heaven.
But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven."
He is telling us to love the Father more than our earthly fathers, take up our crosses (our pain, our suffering) and follow him. Follow Christ who sought no personal retribution. He who paid the price though he himself was blameless.
We are not following Him to bypass trouble, but we are following him through it. We're not seeking restitution or retribution or our own sense of justice. We are following our most significant commandments.
Loving God. Loving one another. Even though we will be mocked, punished, mistreated, abused, murdered. We are to FOLLOW him. Turning our cheeks, seeking God, loving one another...whether or not (and the Bible tells us, mostly NOT) we are loved in return.
This is a great sermon that addresses submission to Ungodly Authority.
http://www.marshillchurch.org/media/trial/submission-to-ungodly-authority
Matthew 10: 34-39
Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.
35 For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law;
36 and one's foes will be members of one's own household
37 Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me,
38 and whoever does not take up the cross and follow me is not worthy of me.
39 Those who find their life will lose it, and those who lose their life for my sake will find it.
Right.
People who choose to not follow Jesus will suffer the sword at judgement. We will find ourselves pitted against brothers, sisters, parents
But it will be Jesus with the sword. On a white stallion, white robe dipped in blood, Ajabu.
Until that day, YOU are to see PEACE. God will win the fight at judgement. You need to stop the battle and turn the cheek.
Or you will find yourself at the mercy of the sword.
This is FUNDAMENTAL Christianity, Ajabu, and unless you discover this truth, you will lose your life.
That has been my main reason for staying on this blog. You are so close to salvation. You have paid a heavy heavy price. Accept salvation. Give GRACE to others. The same grace that your father is waiting to give to you.
Reverend
Dawn is using the overkill approach to try and make a point. Who in the world wants to read all of Dawn's madness. I think we carried her insanity to an even higher level. Please change the subject on this blog and lets move on.
john
Brother Ajabu,
I have recently taken the time to peruse an extremely informative PBS series about Early American history as seen through eyes of the native Americans.
This is history we are never taught in school. Perhaps others, including Dawn, might invest the time to re-visit the early history of this nation. Doing so might just re-adjust the lens through which we see this country.
www.pbs.org/weshallremain
CAUTION: This PBS series is not for the faint of heart. If you love the truth, you will love this early American history series.
Your brother, Wes