Reagan/Bush, Informing Hillary For Obama's Vice President
Reagan/Bush, Informing Hillary for Obama’s Vice President
Lessons From the Past
June 6, 2008
Now that the race for the Democrat’s nomination for President is over it is time for Barack to start contemplating who should be his vice President. Hillary stayed in the race knowing she could in no way win. Yet, because she understood the past she knew in the race for the nomination history has shown us that anything could happen. To justify her knowledge she cited her husband in his run for president did not wrap up the nomination until June. Also, even though Robert Kennedy was leading the pack for the democratic nomination he did not get it because in June an assassin’s bullet prematurely ended his life. Hillary felt that just because she had no mathematical chance for victory she still should stay in the race because anything could happen. Now that she was pretty much forced by Charlie Rangel and the New York shot callers, and along with others, our girl has decided to suspend her campaign. Interesting that she is suspending and not ending her campaign. Does she still think that anything can happen and the party will look to her to be the nominee? Hummm. The pundits have been trying to find a presidential nomination that compares to the Barack/Hillary scenario. To me, the race between George Herbert Walker Bush Sr. and Ronald Wilson Reagan is fitting for this comparison. Let me explain. At this point you should buckle up because it is going to be a rough ride.
In 1980 when Bush senior was running against Reagan the race in its early stages was hotly contested and close. The economy was the issue of the day. Reagan was speaking to his being the governor of California as the executive experience needed to know how to run the country. Bush Sr. was saying that running California did not give one the experience needed to deal with foreign relations. Bush having been Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) said this experience made him most qualified to run the country. This job on Bush’s resume made quite a large number of people cautious. At that time the CIA, by law, was not to carry out any operations on domestic soil. People knowing how one retains connections with the CIA even though your service had ended just had reservations about George being President. Once you are a CIA operative, you are always a CIA operative. Bush’s CIA connections and Reagan calling his economic policy “voodoo economics” caused Reagan to pull ahead and win the Republican nomination for President. With the nomination sewed up it became time for Reagan to pick a vice president.
Pressure increased for Reagan to pick Bush. The intelligence community and the Washington establishment eventually persuaded Reagan to pick Bush. Those, who were not on the inside, feared for Reagan’s life. The speculation was that if Bush and the CIA could not win the presidency directly they would take it indirectly. The only thing that stood in the way of the CIA running the country was Ronald Reagan. The American public, who had faith in the American ideal, did not want to believe that the CIA would go so far as to kill Reagan so they could take over America through their own ex-Director George Bush. Then just sixty-nine days into Ronald’s presidency the unthinkable happen. March 30, 1981 John Hinckley shot President Reagan and collapsed his lung. The whole country, and world, was trying to determine if Ronnie was going to make it. With the serious attempt on Reagan’s life, and the suspicion concerning the CIA’s motives to take over the country, people began to ask some serious questions. Who was this man named John Hinckley? How did he know President Reagan’s schedule? Reagan had just spoken at The Washington Hilton located in Washington D.C. How did Hinckley know out of what entrance the President would be leaving the Washington Hilton? Isn’t the President’s movement confidential? Don’t only is security detail and those very close to the President know this type of detailed information? Pander the following and draw your own conclusions.
The following was published by the Associated Press on March 31, 1981 which is the next day after President Reagan was gunned down.
“ The family of the man charged with trying to assassinate President Reagan is acquainted with the family of Vice President George Bush and had made large contributions to his political campaign....Scott Hinckley, brother of John W. Hinckley Jr. who allegedly shot at Reagan, was to have dined tonight in Denver at the home of Neil Bush, one of the Vice President's sons....The Houston Post said it was unable to reach Scott Hinckley, vice president of his father's Denver-based firm, Vanderbilt Energy Corp., for comment. Neil Bush lives in Denver, where he works for Standard Oil Co. of Indiana. In 1978, Neil Bush served as campaign manager for his brother, George W. Bush, the Vice President's eldest son, who made an unsuccessful bid for Congress. Neil lived in Lubbock, Texas, throughout much of 1978, where John Hinckley lived from 1974 through 1980.”
WHAT!!! Vice President George H.W. Bush, ex-Director of the CIA knows very well the family of the man that shot President Ronald Reagan!! The man’s father who shot the President is/has been a big contributor to ex-CIA Director George Bush’s campaign. Is this too big of a coincidence to be true? Is it possible the CIA attempted to assassinate the President using the son of a friend and major contributor of the ex-Director of the CIA and failed? Would the vice president know the President’s schedule? Would the vice president know out of which entrance the President would be leaving the Washington Hilton and approximately at what time? Would the vice president have access to this detailed security information? I don’t know the answers to these questions. However I do know that something don’t smell right about this attempt on President Reagan’s life!! However, I will let you draw your own conclusions concerning those historical facts. I told you the ride was going to be rough. Did you buckle up? If not you still might want to do that before you go on.
What I want you to do is use this piece of history as a point of departure to compare Hillary Clinton being chosen to be Barack’s vice president. Make the comparison in light of Hillary’s statement concerning anything can happen. Look closely at her justification for anything happening and using the reference of Robert Kennedy’s assassination. Am I the only one that sees some commonality between the Reagan/Bush nomination race and the Barack/Hillary race? The facts are different but the scenarios seem to have the same psychological motives in common. Both George Sr. and Hillary wanted to be President at no matter what the cost that had to be paid. It appears the CIA wanted Bush to get in so the restrictions on the CIA could be relaxed. It appears that Hillary wants in for her own personal reasons. She wants to secure the place in history of being the first white woman to be President of the United States. For Barack to choose Hillary as his vice president would look too much like giving history an opportunity to repeat itself. Not to say that he would meet an experience as did Ronald Reagan, but why take the chance? In my humble opinion, Hillary has nullified her vice president card. In order to show her repentance for such a distasteful and untimely statement she, Bill, and even Chelsea needs to go all out to support Barack and whoever he picks as his vice, and their run to occupy the White’s House. Barack should definitely take his time and process who should be his running mate. That process, in light of the above information, should quickly decide that his choice is anyone other than Hillary. Hillary has shown herself to be more of the same. It is time for a change YES WE CAN increase the love and decrease the hate. Thank you for listening to AJABU SPEAKS!!!
Rev. Ajabu
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Pastor
You need to cut down some of your data. It is too much to read especially when you are not making much sense. You know you need Hillary for your brother Barack to win. How can he beat McCain when he couldn't get more Democratic popular votes than Hillary. Please stop all the dreamy talk and come down to reality and do some math.
White people outnumber Blacks, Whites stick together moreso than Blacks, White people in general do not like Blacks, given these knowns why would you put them on the spot to pick a Black man [not well known] to be president.
Democrats are not smart, to lose in 2000 and in 2004 it looks like a light should have come on for 2008. Why throw away a known veteran as Hillary with her husband Bill for an unknown Barack who is Black/White; and then expect the 59 million Bush re election voters to support the brother. Are y'all crazy?
You need Hillary with her 18 million Democrats. Do the math please. We have to hope, pray, plead, and beg whites to make this brother the president. In the meantime, the brother could care less about Blacks.
Just as he crushed the Arab world with his speech praising Israel, he is doing Black people in America the same way. He had no hesitation to call Jeremiah and Father Phlegher clowns and denounced Farrakhan emphatically. Then he left his own house of faith.
He cares about whites in America [votes] and Jews in America [money and power]. You poor Blacks[not enough votes] are outside the door with a beggars tin cup waiting for a crumb or two from the Black Pharoah of America. Our people look foolish in this position at this time in history. We want a Messiah so badly that we lose all logic and sound judgment. Pastor, I know you guys are beginning to see clearer.
As my God would have it, you all need Hillary and Bill to win in November. You called Hillary every evil term that you could come up with and now your boy is meeting her in secrecy.
You never burn the bridge that brought you across in the 90's because you look pitiful reaching out to the Clintons to save your boy.
john marshall
Marshall, Marshall,
I can depend on you to be the first to put a comment on the blog. It is so disappointing that you want people to believe that you support Black folks but somehow you can't do it without white folks. Not that having a coalition with white folks is bad but you are so hung up that white folks will only support white folks so because there is more white folks black folks need to support white folks. Brother, please. If we control what we can control, which is us, then white folks will make the adjustment. See how they adjusted to have a Black man defeat a white woman!! You are from the old school. It is time for a change! YES WE CAN AND YES WE WILL!! May God continue to order our steps.
GOING TO VOTE FOR HILLARY? YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT THIS FIRST....
This is what happens when you have dirt on the Clintons:
James McDougal - Clinton 's convicted Whitewater partner died of an
apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key
witness in Ken Starr's investigation.
Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a
Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just as she
was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
Vince Foster - Former white House counselor, and colleague of Hillary
Clinton at Little Rock's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to
the head, ruled a suicide.
Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported
to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the
investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's
skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being
investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with
prosecutors.
C. Victor Raiser II and Montgomery Raiser, major players in the
Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.
Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director, found
dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992. Described by Clinton
as a 'Dear friend and trusted advisor.'
Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993, deep in the
woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed
Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton
groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in
several Clinton fund raising events.
Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little
Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little
Rock. Parks' son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He
allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were
mysteriously removed from his house.
James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he
had a 'Black Book', which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas .
James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.
Kathy Ferguson, ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May, 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible
corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson.
Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in
June, 1994, also of a gunshot wound. Ruled a suicide as well.
Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton 's friend Dan Lassater, died by
jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a
convicted drug distributor.
Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related
to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case and died of three
gunshot wounds.
Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was
Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the
head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
Paula Grober - Clinton 's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978
until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport
and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists,
apparently, in the middle of his investigation.
Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with
Casolaro and the 1980 'October Surprise' was found dead on a toilet
June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to
Janet Reno three weeks before his death.
Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust
Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony
August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guarantee scandal.
Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron
Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her
bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of
Commerce.
Charles Meissner - Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang
special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane
crash.
Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care
Advisory Committee, died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small
plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's advisory
council personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother.
Barry Seal - Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas, his death was no
accident.
Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton
in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after
his car had hit a utility pole.
Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guarantee. His death was a
purported suicide; his report was never released.
Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994
when his plane exploded.
Kevin Ives and Don Henry - Known as 'The boys on the track' case.
Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug
operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said,
'due to falling asleep on railroad tracks'. Later reports claim the two boys
had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case
died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.
THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:
Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a
truck, July 1988.
Keith McMaskle - Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988.
Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.
Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump
in April 1989.
James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death
was due to 'natural causes.'
Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his
pickup truck in June 1990.
Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed
in a set-up robbery July, 1989.
THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:
Major William S. Barkley Jr.
Captain Scott J. Reynolds
Sgt. Brian Hanley
Sgt. Tim Sabel
Major General William Robertson
Col. William Densberger
Col. Robert Kelly
Spec. Gary Rhodes
Steve Willis
Robert Williams
Conway LeBleu
Todd McKeehan
Quite an impressive list! Pass this on. Let the public become aware
of what happens to anyone who might damage the Clinton machine.
greetings....well there is a list, i doubt that any of the clintons pulled any triggers or crashed cars or planes or any other illegal deed mentioned. black people are gangsters too. dont play, the truth will set you free or the rev. we just get caught doing everything because we do not think before we act. now back to the real world. facts are as follows...
barack can pick who he wants. he can loose or he can win with the choice of hilary. now if he picked a black person he will loose anyway. his choice will be a colored person who will not be liked by the masses of real black folks. an example would be condelesa rice. real negro material. knowing the facts will set all of our race free. i think that everyone who is for barack have not done any checking on him. i refuse to vote for anyone due to the race. i am a winner and i will go with the winner. LISTEN SO CALLED BLACK PEOPLE VOTE TO WIN, REQUEST THAT OBAMA SELECT WHO WILL AIDE IN HIS VICTORY. HE CAN NOT WIN WITHOUT WHITE AMERICA.HOW UNFORTUNATE FOR US.
DONT BE DUMB. THOSE MILLIONS OF VOTES THAT HILARY HAS, SHE WILL PASS ALONG ONLY IF SHE IS ON THE TICKET FOR DEMOCRATS. IS THIS THE DUMMY CORNER OR IS THERE ONLY ONE PERSON WHO CAN SEE THE REAL TRUTH? THAT IS WHY BLACK PEOPLE ARE IN THE SITUATION WE HAVE BEEN IN SINCE SLAVERY DAYS AND TIMES. LETS THINK WITH OUR BRAINS NOT OUR BODY PARTS...WAKE UP AMERIKKA......NOW IS THE TIME TO LOBBY AND PULL IT UP.CHANGE IS GONNA COME, NOT FOR BLACK PEOPLE, BUT THOSE WHO ARE PREPARING FOR A NEW DAY. A NEW DAY MEANS LOOKING OUT FOR OUR RACE AS A WHOLE. MAKING CHOICES THAT WILL GUIDE US INTO A VICTORY THAT WILL ENABLE US ALL TO LIBERATION IN OUR LIFETIME. WE MUST MAKE IT HAPPEN, STOP WAITING FOR A MIRACLE....WE ARE THE MIRACLE.
New Breed,
Welcome to the discussion. You sound a little like Marshal. You ain't he masquerading are you? However there is at least one thing we can agree on, maybe two. For Obama to win is going to take some support from white folks. However, I would not try to get that support by choosing Hillary as a running mate. Obama needs someone with military experience that is well liked by white folks. That is probably going to be a white male. Notice I said probably. I have a ace up my sleve that I will reveal in a minute. White males with military experience could be Sam Nunn out of Georgia. Or Wesley Clark wouldn't be a bad choice in my opinion. However, to shake the apple cart just a little, here comes the ace, I would even put Colin Powell on the short list. He ain't white, I know you would probably have something to say about that, but he has impeccable military experience and is very well liked by white folks. Being that he is a republican that would really send the message of change across the board. What do you think? Please, don't do Hillary. You did read the article above? Hillary has blown her chance for VP.
My, my, my. I guess I shouldn't be stunned. After having read the information Rev. Ajabu so elouqently shared and backed up with facts. It is one thing to discredit theory or information that is questionable, but to discredit facts and then play the racism card to justify it, wow, this political situation has really exposed a lot of hidden values. I must say one would only be wiser for considering history as it relates to the Bush/Reagan scenario and how it much correlates with the what may appear to be a tactic used by the Clinton's to get what they want (by any means necessary). Hillary has made quite clear her proposed agenda concerning Barack, that is to cast a negative shadow over him and what he stands for. (As some black folk say, "I wouldn't put anything past her"). Marshall, I kind of feel sorry for you, when it is a person communicates a need for another human being in order to fulfill a destiny, that says this person does not know the one who holds all of our destinys in His hands. So, it is Barack does not need Hillary, what will be will be, and no manner of conversation from you, Hillary or the 18 million she seems to think more of than America as a whole, can stop purpose. Many times people do business deals with some whom they may never encounter outside of that deal, so a person's honor and integrity on a personal level is not important; however to run a country it would not be beneficial to the people for Barack to partner with a woman of Hillary's nature, unintegritous and who lacks the value of all humanity to serve in a selfless capacity. I read as you spoke briefly about God but I noticed also how you speak of Hillary as if she is your god. It is time for change, the Clinton's represent the old way of taking care of business, America needs someone fresh and who has a great love for God, this country, the world and all people. Barack is surely that man. Rev. Ajabu, that was a wonderful analogy about the two elections and the incident surrounding the first. May God's will be done.
Considering the choices you, Rev. Lifted up for V. P. I think would be very wise choices. Collin Powell would be the prime rid of all time. You are right his character, level of expertise and love for this country are qualities needed for a win, win situation. But we will see, whoever the Lord has chosen I am sure will be exactly what we need for such a time as this. I am confident of one thing, this is an election like never before, it is as if God Himself is on His way back to the cross. Exposure like never before is at an all time high and those who are real are finally taking their positions, this no man can stop. So, it is whomever the person, will be right on time and well equipped for their tasks. It would be wonderful if all of the people of God or who say they are of God could see the hand of God in this, if so even people like Hillary and Marshall could embrace the changes coming about and the ones already happened. (After all who is sovereign, or didn't they know)? God bless.
Manette,
It, as always, is a pleasure to hear from you. We must be vigilent. The devil is busy. But no matter what weapon is formed against the people of God it will not prosper. It is time for a change. YES WE CAN!! YES WE WILL!! Up you mighty race. Accomplish what you will. May God continue to order our steps.
greetings....the listed female can have her opinion of whatever she feels. closed minds like hers and anyone elses amazes me. no we are not marshall-ites. it just goes to show you how many people feel what is reality. choosing any colored thinking person is and will be a disaster. as far as what is on the horizon..it is liberation. not statements that make you feel good. we are in our last days in time. lame statements are not the answer to what is needed for the poeple to hear. everyone who is now not liking the clintons voted for the clintons.. dont lie about it. blacks and every other race did. the buddy hustling because of race is not for individuals who are independent thinkers. we will not vote due to race.it will be for who will make our life more tolerable. and whoever it is they will not work in the best interest of black people. dont show me ignorance when i hear some sensible conversation. being a HATER is so low class. all writing in on this site should look more toward the truth than opinions. i hear only opinions less truth. WAKE UP YOU MIGHTY RACE.... YOU ALL ARE STILL ASLEEP TO WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE WORLD. THE SLEEPING GIANT IS ON HIS WAY TO YOU SOON, AND HE IS NOT SLEEPING NO MORE.........STOP MAKING THIS A CLINTON ISSUE. IT IS A CANDIDATE ISSUE. THIS IS PIT-TI-FUL OF ALL CONCERNED. DONT HATE WHO YOU DONT KNOW DUE TO LACK OF IGNORANCE. YOU ALL NEED TO INVESTIGATE MORE AND SPECULATE LESS. DONT HATE WHEN IT COMES TIME TO RESPOND.
New Breed,
Are you alright? Sounds like you are not too far from a stressful situation. You are entitled to your opinion. One thing Kwame Nkrumah taught is that not to take one penny from the people and do not come to the people like a know it all. Words to wise is sufficient. May God continue to order our steps.
Pastor and the gang
I want to give you a lesson in politics 101. If we in Atlanta want a Black candidate to run for office, we make sure the district is at least 60% Black. Whites do not vote for Blacks generally.
What sense does it make to run a black candidate in a district that is 80% white. When you [know-it-all] politicians pushed barack Obama to run for the white house, he has in front of him 80% white people.
He has to pray, hope, and beg them to elect him.We never run a black candidate in a large white area, like the United States unless it is a Congressional distict that is mainly black, We do not risk losing an election by putting a Black candidate in a no-win situation.
Barack is doing well with the Democrats and he didn't beat Hillary convincingly but outside of the Democratc Party he will catch hell.
Pastor
I noticed you had a lot of big talk about what Barack should do with Hillary, Bill, and even Chelsea. It is apparent you think Hillary needs Barack more than he needs her. You are drunk with Barack Kool Aid and you are on your last leg and out of your mind.
Bill pushed Hillary to garner as many popular votes as she could to use as leverage later. Barack squeaked by Hillary in delegates and she got more popular Democratic votes. He needs her 18 million Democratic supporters to make it over. If he couldn't beat her with Democrats, what do you think will happen in the general election. And she doesn't have to be his vice president, personally, I hope she refuses if offered. He made this mess, let him finish it. He appears arrogant and puffed up since he got the nomination but he still has to beat McCain.
Lets take a look at his Republicans, Southern Democrats, and Independents who will be needed to beat McCain. They put Republicans in the White House in 2000 and 2004. Now with a Black man nominated for them to choose over a white man, who do you think they will pick. We wanted Hillary because she looks like them. It was never about the brother being so bad as it was about the racist White people who we doubt will vote for Barack.
As I said previously in politics 101, you never take a chance on White voters voting for a Black man. It is no different in the presidential election, whites don't vote for Blacks generally. Even among the Democrats, Hillary began receiving more Whites than Barack. It is the Black vote that kept him going. Remember Texas, where Dallas and Houston were the cities that Barack carried heavily while all the rest of Texas [mosly white] voted for the person who looks like them.
That is why we who support Hillary are amazed to see so many Blacks deceive themselves in believing that White people have changed and are now ready for a brother. You told me Pastor that I'm behind the times. I am out of touch. We shall see my friend.
All you really have going for you is the mess that Bush has made of this country. It should be enough for Republicans and Southern Whites to vote for Barack, you would think. Well, when I saw that crowd re elect Bush over a liberal[White] John Kerry, I said my God, they are all mad.
Similarly, I feel the same way about you Pastor and the Black Obama mob, they are all mad. It is not about Obama, it's about y'all having faith in the Whites of America. Y'all see a change in their hearts. Bless y'all hearts. It is good to have faith but not in that crowd.
Hold to your faith in God because if Obama gets in, God will have to do some circumcision of a lot of White hearts in America for us to realize the dream of a Black president.
My June newspaper from Americus, GA is on our website: www.americusumterobserver.com
We deal in reality, our heads are out of the clouds, we call out Blacks and Whites based on what they have or have not done for our people. That's why we did not support Barack. I don't care how many Black people get upset, they need to think. Our own brothers and sisters have sometimes been worst than the slave masters. Blacks candidates need to be examined carefully just as you would a white candidate.
Oh by the way, you bloggers have not told me who Barack Obama is. One person told me the other day that Barack is a community organizer. What did he organize and what came of it. What else has he done. Anybody can sponsor Bills in the Senate. It still doesn't say who he is. I don't know him. I know Hillary and Bill and their co presidency left this country prosperous and at peace. Which one of these good deeds do you stone them for?? Name some other Whites in this country who have elevated the poor and Blacks as much as the Clintons. Name them please!!!
john marshall
www.americusumterobserver.com
Marshal, Marshal,
It has been a long day. Our church, which is predominantly Black is having a sacred conversation with 91st Street Christian Church, which is predominantly white about the church's role in race, religion, and politics. This conversation, which is being held by a number of churches across the city, was spurned by folks wanting to understand the remarks of Jeremiah Wright. God is moving in this place. Church was a wonderful experience. Bishop spoke on if God starts it, then God will finnish it. He used this mantra to talk about how God is moving in America using Obama as a tool to touch people of all shades, colors, and persuasions to try and do the right thing. It is within God's will for all humans to be treated equally. The equality for a Black man to be President of the United States of America is on the horizon. If God started it, which I believe, then God will finnish it.
Your politics 101 has at least one flaw that I know of. John Lewis, your congressman from the state of Georgia is in a district that is predominantly white. So whites do and will vote for a Black man. John Lewis' distric also voted overwhelmingly for Barack Obama. Because they voted for Barack in such large numbers Lewis switched his support from Hillary to Obama. This one example just torpedoes your little ol' analysis. Go back to the drawing board my friend. You must understand that if God is with you, no weapon formed against you will prosper. God is with Barack. It is time for a change. YES WE CAN!! YES WE WILL!! May God continue to order our steps.
LETS FORGET YOUR JOB TITLE....YOU ARE AN IGNORANT BLACK MAN WHO EVIDENTLY TRIES TO HIDE BEHIND YOUR JOB TITLE AND YOUR CHURCH MEMBERS WHO IF THEY THINK LIKE YOU ARE THE SAME DEFINITION. NOW TO MOVE ON.... BEING BLACK IS A PRIVILEDGE..WHITE AMERIKKA IS NOT RESPECTING THAT THIS NEGRO HAS MOVED UP IN THE WORLD. THIS RACE WAS ABOUT NOT LETTING ANY WHITES MEANING HILARY ASSIST BLACKS AGAIN IN THIS LIFETIME. THE MERE FACT THAT PUNK ASS BUSH WAS ALLOWED TO DO TWO TERMS SHOULD HAVE LET US ALL KNOW WHAT TIME IT IS IN THIS RACIST SOCIETY. YOU HAVE NOT YET UNDERSTOOD WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO TELL YOU. BRO. MARSHALL KNOWS WHAT TIME IT IS AND IS GIVING YOU ALL THE INFO TO SUPPORT WHY HE FEELS THE WAY SMART BLACK PEOPLE FEEL. ANYONE OF OUR RACE WHO STILL IS STUCK ON STUPID THINKING THESE WHITE RACIST IN HOODS ARE GOING TO ELECT THIS NEGRO IS SAD AND STUPID AND WILL SEE THAT WHITE AMERIKKA IS STILL ON PATH TO DESTROY OUR RACE. YOU DO NOT KNOW ABOUT OBAMA HIS CONNECTIONS TO WHITE AMERIKKA OR THE FACT THAT HE IS SURROUNDED BY NOTHING BUT WHITE FOLKS WHEN HE IS NOT WITH HIS FAMILY. THAT SHOULD TELL YOU PLENTY. YOUR MIND IS IN A CLOUD OF SMOKE AND IT IS TO BAD TO KNOW THAT YOU ARE PREACHING ILLITERACY TO YOUR CONGREGATION AND ALL THOSE FOOLS WHO CHOSE TO LISTEN TO YOU ON A REGULAR BASIS. I DO APPECIATE BEING ABLE TO REPRESENT THE SANE OF OUR RACE. PLEASE COME DOWN FROM THE HIGH THAT YOU ARE ON. IT IS EMBARARSSING ALL THE SAME BLACK PEOPLE WHO ARE READING THIS. I PRAY THAT YOU LISTEN TO REASON AND TO REMEMBER WHAT GARVEY AGAIN SAID "UP YOU MIGHTY RACE", THAT MEANT HANDLE BUSINESS REGARDLESS OF WHO YOU WILL DECIDE TO GUIDE US TO OUR PATHWAY OF SUCCESS..... WE ARE PRAYING FOR YOU AND ALL THE OTHER NEGROS AND COLOREDS WHO BELIEVE IN NONSENSE...STOP PAINTING A SAD PICTURE FOR THE TRUE LIBERATIONIST...........PLEASE..........
Pastor
I want to thank New Breed for speaking out about your obvious ignorance of these Whites in America. I wonder if New Breed knows that you were a Black Panther at one time. I bet they had to kick you out for "tripping." Did I understand you to say that these racist Whites in America are changing. And did I understand that you live in Indiana. What happened to you to get so far off track. You are beginning to sound like Barack and his solid belief in the goodness of America.
Pastor, I lived in Atlanta when John Lewis ran for Congress. I voted for Julian Bond that year and not John Lewis. Lewis lives in a district that is overwhelmingly black. You need to ask somebody before you make direct statements that are incorrect. You need to read and do a little research if your intent is to educate our people. You are beginning to look like the blind leading the sighted.
The take home message is very simple. Again, in politics 101 we never run a Black against a White in a predominantly White district. I don't care if it is for dog catcher, city council, county commissioner, US Congress, or the Senate. Why?? Because White people don't vote for Blacks.
Then the question follows, what about Barack? There are some Whites who voted for him but please note the number of Whites who voted for Hillary, around 18 million Democrats. A good example is Texas, Barack carried Houston and Dallas mainly because of the concentration of Blacks in those two cities; the rest of Texas voted for Hillary [mostly Whites]. The last part of the Democratic Primaries, Whites voted for Hillary and it was the Blacks that kept Barack's numbers up. So, even among Democrats, Hillary did get more popular votes than Barack, again those votes were White.
In summary, we never take the chance and run a black against a White unless we have a sizable Black majority in any district, state and yes in the whole country. What New Breed and others realize is that your faith is not in God as much as it is in the racist Whites who do not vote for or like black people.[generally speaking]
I have told Pastor too many times to stop putting your faith in these Whites in racist America. I will concede that God is able and miracles do happen but with these deep seated racists in America, it will take a miracle.
Thanks again New Breed, I have been battling this Obama mob by myself.
These discussions have been very interesting!!! What happened to being judged by the content of your character in making the assumptions that Blacks are doomed forever without the hope of being in the leadership process. God has already done a work in the hearts of the people. Clearly, you have no faith in Him who is able to keep us all from falling! We thought we knew Bill and Hillary until their Black opponent hit the scene. They began to talk differently and act differently as well. Their tunes changed or was it just the game of politics. I believe it's time to turn the page and see what the end will be. Whomever can get us out of this mess regardless of skin color needs to get busy. We that are the recipients of high gas prices, foreclosing homes,lack of insurance, etc. What does color really have to do with it??? Ignorance is bliss and to have
had Bush for 8 years has been the biggest joke ever. Why not suspend your talk and fear of voting for a Black and give God a chance to finish what He has started. By faith I believe it will be done. No devil in hell can stop what God means to be so.
Faith
Just because a Black man is nominated for president of the United States, it does not mean that God is operating for this to happen. It could have been Hillary that would have been our blessing. She and her husband were a blessin in the 90's. You never burn the bridge that brought you across.
Again, politics 101: when you are competing for anything that is worth while like president of this country, you have to fight and compete. You can bring out the worst in Barack and Hillary. Did y'all expect the Clintons to give in to Barack, an unknown, inexperienced, questionable personal history, and risk allowing him to defeat them in the race. No!! But I must admit, they tried to go easy on him because he is black,that was their mistake, they needed to trounce him. He needed to be exposed for the deceptive wolf in sheep's clothing" that he is.
Our ways are not God's ways, our thoughts are not His thoughts, so don't explain to us God's intentions. This country is under Judgment, see the tornadoes, floods, droughts, economy, schools, the decadence of the people. We do need to wait and see what is God saying with this Barack person, but I will not accept the prophecies of those on this blog whether they are right or wrong. I choose to wait on God. Even if Barack wins, it still could be further Judgment by God. He alone looks on Barack and Hillary's hearts.
Be blessed
john marshall
Marshall, Marshall,
I hate to say you are right about the demographics of John Lewis' district, but I must accept the truth, and I do. With that being said let me give you some Indiana Politcs 101.
We just elected a Black man in the 7th congressional district which is overwhelmingly occupied by whites. Whites are about 60% of the population while Blacks are about 30%. Whites will vote for a God centered Black man over a devilish acting white woman. There is more than corn in Indiana.
We are trying to teach you and New Era something. With our God on our side it makes no difference what weapon is formed against you, it will not prosper. I don't care if the weapon is called a McCain or a Clinton. God is with Obama. Andre Carson, who represents the Indiana 7th congressional district, endorsed Obama. Get this, ANDRE IS A MUSLIM!!! White folks voted for a Black man who is a Muslim!! Don't tell me what God can't do, won't do, because I am looking at what God is doing. Oh ye of little faith.
Obama beat the devilish behavior displayed by Hillary and her husband. They tried to trounce him. They couldn't. This is the sign that God is on his side. Sean Hannity tried to trounce, now you and new era are trying to trounce him. It won't work. God is on his side. No weapon formed against him will prosper. NONE!. IT IS TIME FOR A CHANGE. YES WE CAN!! YES WE WILL!! May the God of truth, justice, and the righteous continue to order our steps. I incluced the stats for the Indiana 7th Congressional Distric below. Read em and weep.
Indiana's 7th congressional district
IN. Seventh Congressional District Demographics
Area 265 mi² (686 km²)
Distribution 99.7% urban, 0.3% rural
Population (2000) 675,674
Median income $36,522
Ethnic composition 63.0% White, 29.4% Black, 1.3% Asian, 4.4% Hispanic, 0.2% Native American, 1.7% other
Occupation 26.2% blue collar, 57.7% white collar, 16.1% gray collar
Cook PVI D + 9
greetings family of agreeing and disagreeing.... it is hard to convince people of what is reality. i am not trying to debate anyone about the truth. it is going to reveal itself to all. we just want to make sure that all the info that is needed will be given out. god is appreciating bro. marshall and the new breed stepping out on faith and giving the real side of the info needed. it is just a shame that it is hard for black people to see other blacks for who they are and who they are not. we want our people to be righeous, but that is not always the case. like we have suggested to many obama supporters.. it would have been nice to see obama in the white house as the vice...that is not a terrible position. he would have the opportunity to be there and let our people and others to see him in action. hilary would have only been the stepping stone for this to occur.keep in mind he is not and will not be the only black president.....go to the book THE SIX BLACK, PRESIDENTS..... although they passed for white they were still black men with black mothers. that is fact.... now we will have to watch them treat him like a slave boy..... whites are going to vote white. the few who may act like what is called nigga lovers have a hidden agenda..you will soon see. all those white folks who i call "ghosts" were paid to work on his campaign and have gotten more info on him than we can ever imagine. we pray for he and his family. now about you always putting GOD into the mix i'm okay with that ,,,,but obama is not the chosen one...we all are. it is what we chose to do with our assignments..,, you will see and all others who dare not to. our prayers are with the ignorant and the non beleivers who are under the impression that we are going to be victorius......lets think about that and i will get back with you......
New Breed,
My brother, my brother, that is right isn't it. I am assuming that you are male and Black. If my assumption is wrong please correct me. This is not the time to play second fiddle. If the cards had fell Hillary's way then vice for Barack might have been a consideration. But since the cards fell his way, there is no sense in us trying to find a way to play second fiddle. Some would say fate has dealt the hand. I say God is in control of our fate. He has chosen Barack, along with our's and others help, to be the one to lead the world, through being at the helm of America, back into the will of God. I can't say I know all of what God is doing. I can't say that because I realize I don't know all of what God is doing. But I do know that it makes good sense to be obedient and let go and let God. I am not afraid, and I refuse to be afraid to recognize God and go as God leads. May God of peace, justice, and righteouness continue to order our steps.
Pastor, Pastor
You need to ease up on this exclusive connection that you have with God. I like the fact that God looks on the heart, not you Pastor. When God told the thief on the cross, "This day you will be with me in Paradise." Nobody of that day would have thought the thief would make it in before those self-righteous Pharisees. You can't make the call about Barack or anybody else. You do not speak for God and you run the risk of chastisement by Him. Please be careful with these prophesies. We are not buying them.
Let me give you an Americus, GA political lesson 101. We have a flaming uncle tom on the city council who is so good to Whites, that they gerrymandered her district by removing as many Blacks as they could and then brought in enough Whites to give them [whites] the majority. That is what Whites do with those lap dog, traitors of the Black community. They are glad to take anything like Clarence Thomas.
The brother in Indiana is an exception, he was supported by Farrakhan, he is Muslim and it is highly irregular for Whites to put in a strong pro Black brother.
Why do you think Barack will not utter a word about the Black 92 year old lady killed by Atlant police, blacks in prisons, crack vs powder cocaine, affirmative action, racism all over America, I mean he says nothing. He wouldn't go on Tavist Smiley show, Hillary did. He wouldn't go to Memphis to remember King's death, Hillary and McCain did. He was scared to condemn the slaying of the guy in NY.
He has to act like he has nothing to do with Blacks and that he is 150% for Whites. Those are the Blacks that the White majority districts [city council,county commissioners, Congressional, school board, and Senatorial]will vote for. Poor Barack has to pretend not to even think of Blacks in order to win. Doesn't that amount to deception of White voters. Even White people expect a Black man to support publicly some of the concerns of Black people.
You guys want us to believe that Barack can use Jeremiah and Father Pflegher for over 20 years to eventually get elected Senator from Illinois and then drop them just because White people disapprove of their activism and their associations. That is a deceptive brother. Who else will he drop to please that White majority he needs to beat McCain.
He reminds me of the mulatto girl in the old movie, "Imitation of Life," where the girl disowned her Black mother as she was trying to pass as a White girl. That is the way we see Barack and his relation to the Black community.
Thanks again New Breed, you are a righteous and a real brother. You know the enemy and that enemy can be Black or White.
john marshall
My brother Marshall,
It is interesting that you criticise the "flaming uncle Tom . . . who is so good to whites" in Americus Georgia in light of your support for Hillary. Ain't she a white woman? Are you supporting her at the cost of your own? Would you use the language to apply to yourself that you use to apply to the brother on the Americus city county council? I just asking.
Just for your info. I am not aware of Farrakhan publicly endorsing Andre Carson. Farrakhan spoke as his grandmother's funeral, and I was there, however I don't remember a formal endorsement of Andre. Do you have evidence to back up that statement? If so, please share.
I don't speak for God, I speak to God. When I pray, I am speaking to God. I also believe in God. And in my belief I see God doing God's thing by using Barack to send a message to the world. In my humble opinion, and belief, some have not seen God in this mix. I won't mention no names. However, I pray that God continues to order our steps and this situation.
You speak about no one, to include the Pharisees could have seen the thief in paradise with Jesus. Update that to today. Who, especially a Georgian, could have seen a Black being the nominee for President for the Democratic Party. There are some even to this day, again I won't mention any names, who actually see this to have happened and don't want to believe it. It fact choose to oppose it. Would much rather have a white woman as the nominee over their own brother. My Lord!! God please help some of us with our un-belief. God bless you.
Partial Statement by Cynthia McKinney, Power to the People Candidate for U.S. President, on the nomination of Barack Obama as the Democratic Party's Presidential Candidate in 2008
(statement issued June 9, 2008)
On Saturday, June 7, 2008, Hillary Clinton announced that her 2008 presidential bid is over, making Barack Obama the first-ever Black presidential nominee of a major party in the history of the United States.
Congratulations to Senator Obama for achieving such a feat!
When I was growing up in the U.S. South in the racially turbulent 1960s, it would have been impossible for a Black politician to become a viable Presidential contender. Nothing a Black candidate could have done or said would have prevented him (or her) from being excluded on the basis of skin color alone. Many of us never thought we would see in our lifetime a Black person with a real possibility of becoming President of the United States.
The fact that this is now possible is a sign of some racial progress in this country, more than 40 years after the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts. But it is also a sign of the deep discontent among the American people, and particularly among African Americans, with the corporate-dominated, business-as-usual politics that has prevailed in Washington for too many years.
Coming from Barack Obama, the word "change" did not appear as just another empty campaign slogan. It galvanized millions of people --mostly young people--to register to vote and to get active in the political system. The U.S. political system needs the energy and vision of all is citizens participating in the political process. Citizen participation is always the answer.
Senator Obama called for healing the wounds inflicted on working people and the poor in our country after eights years of a corrupt and criminal Bush-Cheney Administration. Just as in November 2006, people full of an expectation for change, including those the system has purposefully left out and left behind, flocked to the polls to vote for Senator Obama. Across a broad swath of the people of this country, and from those who are impacted by U.S. foreign policy, there is a real expectation, a real desire, for change.
Pastor
I don't want you to get too defensive as this is your Blog and you will have to keep a level head. My dear brother, you can't declare that any White woman is worst than a brother. We had Abolitionists who risked their lives to get us to freedom, we have had many Whites who have worked to help us. It is not about color it is about your behavior and what you have done.
Hillary is not just "that White woman". We know that White woman better than we know that Black man. I would put her actions up against Barack's any day.
Believe it or not, this same White woman tried to get a Health Plan through that would have saved thousands of lives, Black and White. She and her husband [co-presidency] left America very prosperous and at peace. That same white woman.
Lets look at the brother, name something tangible that he has done before winning the nomination. Who is he? Where did he come from and who sent him.
He said he used drugs, he came from a broken biracial home, he was head of the prestigious Harvard Law Review, a member of Jeremiah Wright's church for 20 years, a community organizer, and helped Farrakhan's friend, Father Flegher in Chicago.
But what has he done?
I am sorry Pastor, the White woman has a better track record. When you bring Bill Clinton into the equation, we bring an experienced team that is ready on day one. The racists like Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugn, Hannity, Dick Morris are so happy that the Clintons are eliminated.
Brother, you never burn the bridge that brought you across. You think God is pleased with a people who refuse to open their eyes and really see where they are. We are in a house on fire as King said. Name me any Whites since Roosevelt who have helped the poor and Blacks more than the Clintons. Name them!!!
John Marshall
www.americusumterobserver.com
Marshall, Marshall,
Why are you so hung up on supporting someone other than yourself. Name something that Barack has done that he shouldn't be support. I think it is time to bury the hatchet when it comes to your white woman. It's over with. Her race is over. She lost. What she has done in the past has no bearing on what Barack will do in the future. My brother, do not become so chained to your past that you can't go forward. Now it is time to talk Barack versus McCain. Hillary is over, finni, through. Get over it!! Watch God continue his work. God might decide, or might have already decided to use your white girl in some dynamic way. Whatever God decides to do God will not be using Hillary to be the democratic presidential nominee. It just ain't in the cards this time. Get over it. May God help us all.